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Einhorn’s Greenlight Q4 Letter $$

For reasons recently announced, the thought process of Einhorn takes on more relevance for us.

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Einhorn's Greenlight Q4 Letter $$

For reasons recently announced, the thought process of Einhorn takes on more relevance for us.

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Einhorn’s Q3 Letter

Some great market commentary here. The third paragraph I think sums up the current market perfectly. Everyone’s opinion does make a certain amount of sense, depending on the day. Not sure if that is a god thing or not. My take would be that it is because as long as 1 opinion is not pervasive,  we are then more fundamentally driven, not emotionally.

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Einhorn's Q3 Letter

Some great market commentary here. The third paragraph I think sums up the current market perfectly. Everyone’s opinion does make a certain amount of sense, depending on the day. Not sure if that is a god thing or not. My take would be that it is because as long as 1 opinion is not pervasive,  we are then more fundamentally driven, not emotionally.

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@VIC: David Einhorn, Greenlight Capital, “Liquor before Beer… In the Clear”

This is a very entertaining read…

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Greenlight’s Einhorn Buys S&P and GE Puts

It would appear Einhorn is not a believer in the recent rally as he added puts in the S&P (.INX) and GE (GE) to his portfolio in the last quarter.

Maybe this is why? From Bespoke

A P/E ratio rising from 10 to 18.35 is what happens when the S&P 500 rallies 50% (the P) while earnings (E) continue to decline. Below we provide a chart of the S&P 500 price to earnings ratio since the start of the 2002 bull market using trailing 12-month diluted earnings per share from continuing operations.

The S&P’s P/E ratio reached its highest level since the end of 2004 earlier this week. While P/E expansion is not unusual during bull markets, investors will remember that the S&P 500’s P/E actually declined from the start to the finish of the ’02-’07 bull. This is because earnings grew even faster than stock prices. When looking at the chart below, you can see that the P/E did expand in the early days of the ’02-’07 bull before earnings finally started to grow again in late 2003 and early 2004. Obviously if the current bull is going to have any sustainability at all, earnings will have to start growing again. But for now, as evidenced by the skyrocketing P/E ratio, investors are paying up on the hopes of future earnings growth.

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Greenlight's Einhorn Buys S&P and GE Puts

It would appear Einhorn is not a believer in the recent rally as he added puts in the S&P (.INX) and GE (GE) to his portfolio in the last quarter.

Maybe this is why? From Bespoke

A P/E ratio rising from 10 to 18.35 is what happens when the S&P 500 rallies 50% (the P) while earnings (E) continue to decline. Below we provide a chart of the S&P 500 price to earnings ratio since the start of the 2002 bull market using trailing 12-month diluted earnings per share from continuing operations.

The S&P’s P/E ratio reached its highest level since the end of 2004 earlier this week. While P/E expansion is not unusual during bull markets, investors will remember that the S&P 500’s P/E actually declined from the start to the finish of the ’02-’07 bull. This is because earnings grew even faster than stock prices. When looking at the chart below, you can see that the P/E did expand in the early days of the ’02-’07 bull before earnings finally started to grow again in late 2003 and early 2004. Obviously if the current bull is going to have any sustainability at all, earnings will have to start growing again. But for now, as evidenced by the skyrocketing P/E ratio, investors are paying up on the hopes of future earnings growth.

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greenlight13f_082009


Disclosure (“none” means no position):